Tacey Atkinson and Chris Gillen on the Customers First Podcast

The Villain Trap with Chris Gillen

On this episode, I am joined by Chris Gillen, a distinguished leadership advisor, coach, and speaker who has dedicated his career to fostering cultures of trust and accountability in organizations. We delve into the central themes of his latest book, “The Villain Trap,” which explores how blame undermines leadership and erodes the foundation of effective team dynamics. Chris, with over 35 years of retail experience, shares valuable insights on how individuals, knowingly or unknowingly, can become the villains in their leadership narratives.

Chris recounts his transition from running large retail operations to coaching startups, providing a unique perspective on cultivating a culture of empowerment and ownership in workplaces. His phrase “the blame bubble” encapsulates the moment when leaders fail to take accountability for their actions, often leading to detrimental consequences for team morale and organizational culture. Through his personal anecdotes and professional journey, Chris underscores the urgency of recognizing this issue to prevent it from spiralling into a poisonous atmosphere within teams.

As we delve into the mechanisms of blame and villainization, Chris outlines the five distinct stages of the villain trap, starting with the initial trigger of discomfort that leads to the victim reflex and ultimately to the emotional justification of villain creation. This cycle illustrates how leaders and team members can distort reality to avoid taking responsibility. Chris emphasizes that true leadership is about shifting perspective from finding blame to seeking collaborative solutions, actionable ownership, and mutual understanding.

This conversation not only explores the challenges of leadership but also inspires a broader dialogue about accountability, emotional intelligence, and leading with authenticity. By offering actionable advice and a compassionate perspective, Chris encourages leaders at all levels to reflect on their impacts, both personally and communally, in fostering a culture that prioritizes empathy over villainization.

 

Chris’s Contact Information:

LinkedIn: @chrisgillen

Link to Book Website: The Villain Trap

 

Tacey’s Contact Information:

Email: tacey@taceyatkinson.com

All Socials: @TaceyAtkinson

 

Thank you for tuning in, and I look forward to having more valuable conversations together in the future.

Remember:

Customer-Centric Cultures Create Magical Customer Experiences.

Now Go, Create the Magic!

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